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the working people."
I noted that comrade N.S. Khrushchev's visit demonstrated the great interest of the workers of America in our country and in socialism.
For that reason, Deng Xiaoping said, the ruling circles in the USA were afraid of that visit. They wanted to isolate comrade Khrushchev, but the people broke through the dike. Moreover, having agreed with (my) observation that even while making progress and augmenting socialism's strength it is necessary to display great vigilance toward the machinations of the imperialists, Deng Xiaoping said: “The imperialists especially want to undermine the unity of our countries, but that is a futile endeavor...."
With the General Secretary of the CC CCP
Member of the Politburo of the
I was received on 17 May by Deng Xiaoping. The chief of the division on ties with fraternal parties, member of the CC and the Secretariat of the CC CCP, Wang Jiaxiang also took part in the ensuing conversation....
To my observation that the most important thing in overcoming every difficulty is the presence of the leading role of the CCP, Deng Xiaoping said that both the one and the other were important, the leadership of the CCP and help from the Soviet Union. “At present,” he went on, "we are in a better position than you were right after the October Revolution. If a new socialist country arises, it will, given the existence of the entire socialist camp, be in an even better position than we are. We are very happy that the situation in the Soviet Union is good in all respects. As for us, we are also not in a bad position.”
I noted that even in a situation where our affairs are going well, we (always) take measures to use all our existing capacities as much as possible; we are self-critical of ourselves, and strive to root out all our shortcomings. We also have shortcomings, Deng Xiaoping answered, and they will always exist. One must even on occasion heed criticism coming from an enemy.
At the conclusion of the conversation, Deng Xiaoping said that we would meet again and more than once.
I thanked Deng Xiaoping for the conversation and expressed the hope that in its work, the Embassy would encounter assistance from him and from the CC CCP apparatus as before.
Head of the protocol division of the CCP Foreign Ministry, Yu Peiwen, assistant head of the division for the USSR and the countries of Eastern Europe Yu Zhan, (USSR) embassy counselor B.N. Vereshchagin and third secretary B.T. Kulik were present during the conversation.
In connection with the instructions from the Center, I gave Deng Xiaoping the text of a letter of the CC CPSU with an official invitation to the party-governmental delegation of the PRC to visit the USSR. Deng Xiaoping said that the delegation of the PRC would be certain to go to the Soviet Union, and that the CC CCP without a doubt would take seriously the wishes expressed by the Soviet comrades in connection with this trip.
After this I fulfilled the Center's instruction regarding informing the Chinese comrades about the position of the Soviet Union in connection with the summit conference. Deng Xiaoping said that comrade N.S. Khrushchev's speech on 16 May in Paris was a very good, strong speech, and noted that on 18 May it would be fully published in the PRC press. We still do not know Mao Zedong's and Liu Shaoqi's opinions, since they are absent, said Deng Xiaoping, but an exchange of opinions has already taken place between the members of the CC CCP who are presently in Beijing. All of these comrades fully support N.S. Khrushchev's address. Deng Xiaoping again emphasized that it was a very strong address, and that in it they see the CC CPSU's firm position. That is our position and the position of the Central Committee of the CCP, he said.
Touching on the USA's aggressive actions, Deng Xiaoping said: "Eisenhower did a good turn (sdelal khoroshee delo)," since by his actions he fully unmasked himself in the eyes of all the world's peoples. This has a deep educational significance. The ruling circles of the USA are trying to justify themselves by any means possible, but the facts speak for themselves. The peoples of the world can compare the actions of the United States and the Soviet Union. Deng Xiaoping emphasized that N.S. Khrushchev's speech in Paris and Eisenhower's statement, with which he had also already familiarized himself, present a striking contrast. Com. Khrushchev fully uncovered the true face of Eisenhower and the imperialists.
In the course of further conversation, Deng Xiaoping said that the Soviet government's initiative as to the summit conference was useful and necessary; he empha
Ambassador of the USSR in the PRC
(Source: AVPRF, f. 5, op. 49, d. 235, II. 107-110; obtained by Paul Wingrove; translated by Benjamin Aldrich-Moodie.)
sized that “this was and remains our point of view.” It would be good, if as a result of pressure by peace-loving forces, results were attained, great or small. While at present, fruitful work by a summit conference is impossible, the very fact that the imperialists unmasked themselves is not a bad result. Deng Xiaoping further said that the logic of the American imperialists is the logic of robbers; however Eisenhower tries to "white wash" (obelir) himself, nothing more will come of it for him; practically he is helping us. Even this result of the meeting in Paris speaks to the fact that the victory is ours. Deng Xiaoping emphasized that comrade N.S. Khrushchev “acted completely correctly by going to Paris; he should have gone."
Throughout the course of the conversation I noted that some diplomats - representatives of the capitalist countries of Western Europe in Beijing, in particular the English and the Dutch, are trying to defend the United States, and constantly emphasize that no great significance should be lent to the incursion by the American (U-2) airplane onto the Soviet Union's territory; that all countries behave in this way, but that the USA got caught. Deng Xiaoping said that Nehru, U Nu, and almost all the political actors of the bourgeois world make the same argument. Deng Xiaoping told about some of Zhou Enlai's impressions in connection with his trip to the countries of Asia which had just finished. Zhou Enlai returned to Beijing today and told about the negotiations with Nehru, about which he, Zhou Enlai, had formed a particular opinion. Deng Xiaoping said that Zhou Enlai's trip to India to a certain extent played the same role as N.S. Khrushchev’s trip to Paris for the summit conference. N.S. Khrushchev exposed the American imperialists, and as a result of Zhou Enlai and other Chinese comrades' trip to India, Nehru's true face was uncovered. Deng Xiaoping said: "Both of the trips were necessary, correct, and yielded a (positive) result."
Deng Xiaoping emphasized that Zhou Enlai's visit to India fully confirmed “our previous opinion and position in relation to Nehru.” First. Nehru is the central figure in the anti-Chinese campaign in India. Nehru is not in a position where rightist and other reactionaries are putting pressure on him; he himself seeks the attainment of his goals by all means possible. Nehru has never lost control over the situation in the country, nor has the situation ever gotten out of hand. Nehru knows how to hold the country firmly in his hands. Second. The trip confirmed that Nehru does not want to solve the issue of the ChineseIndian border under any circumstances, even for some sort of limited period. In this, he is operating on the basis of his interests, both internal and external. Nehru speaks out against the communist party of India; for this reason, it does not profit him to resolve the border issue with China. Also for foreign-policy reasons it is not profitable for him to resolve the issue. Deng Xiaoping said that if Nehru had eliminated the conflict with China, he would not have received the latest American aid, a sum of 1.2 billion dollars.
Deng Xiaoping noted that at present in the Chinese press, articles are being published which are uncovering Nehru's real face. He further said that many political figures in the countries of Asia-Nasser (Egypt), Kasem (Iraq). Sukarno (Indonesia), U Nu (Burma)—are taking the same positions as Nehru. Nehru stands out from them [in that] he is the cleverest. It was not in vain that he studied in England; in India he is called a half-Englishman, and the English are more experienced than the Americans in (playingl political tricks.
Deng Xiaoping emphasized that the struggle with bourgeois figures of this sort is one of the most important problems facing the international communist movement. Such figures as Nasser or Kasem unmask themselves; in India this work must be done under more difficult circumstances. Some Indian communists even praise Nehru. But in the end, said Deng Xiaoping, Nehru's behavior is educating these communists as well. With pleasure we see, he continued, that at the last meeting of the National Committee of the Indian Communist Party, important resolutions on internal issues were adopted, namely a Statute about the fact that the struggle with reaction cannot avoid a fight with the National Congress Party and with the Congress government (materials about the resolutions of the National Committee of the Communist Party of India were published on the May 17 in “The People's Daily” -S.Ch.). The organ of the Indian Communist Party has begun to include open public statements against Nehru.
Returning to the meeting in Paris, Deng Xiaoping said that the issue of developing a (Chinese) movement in support of N.S. Khrushchev's statement was being examined in the CC CCP. On May 18, the leaders of social organizations in the PRC will make statements in the press on this issue, and two to three days thereafter, when the circumstances become clearer, further steps will be taken in this direction. Our common position consists, he said, of exposing the imperialists and of explaining the correctness of the position of the countries in the socialist camp headed by the Soviet Union.
Deng Xiaoping asked me to convey a warm greeting to comrade N.S. Khrushchev and to all of the members of the Presidium of the CC CPSU on behalf of comrades Mao Zedong, Liu Shaoqi, and all of the leaders of the CC CCP. The Americans are closing ranks against us, he said, but their closing of ranks is insecure. Our solidarity, and the solidarity of the countries of the socialist camp, is inviolable, since it is founded on a unity of ideas and goals.
In connection with this, the great significance of the upcoming visit by the Chinese party-governmental delegation to the Soviet Union for the further development and strengthening of fraternal friendship between our peoples and parties and for the unity of the whole socialist camp was once again emphasized by me,
In conclusion, Deng Xiaoping said that he would convey everything that he had been informed of by me to comrades Mao Zedong and Liu Shaoqi.
The conversation took place in warm, friendly circumstances.
The counselor to the Embassy, I.I. Safronov, and the First Secretary of the Embassy, B.V. Kapralov, were present during the conversation.
claim and then asks : why do you now wish to return to the events of 1956 in Poland and Hungary. We think that this is not done for the sake of clarifying the evaluation of these events. One sees, however, that such a questioning can only stoke nationalistic moods in Poland and Hungary in order to undermine the tight fraternal and heartfelt relations of the USSR and the CPSU with Poland and Hungary
Ambassador of the USSR to the PRC Signature (S. CHERVONENKO)
(Third Session : 20 September 1960]
(Source: AVPRF f. 0100 op.53, p.8, d. 454, ll. 165-9; translated by Ben Aldrich-Moodie.)
The Short Version of the Negotiations Between CPSU
and CCP Delegations (September 1960)
CPSU Delegation: Suslov (leader), Kozlov, Kuusinen, Pospelov, Ponomarev, Andropov, Il'ichev, Konstantinov, Grishin, Chervonenko
CCP Delegation: Deng (leader), Peng Zhen, Chen Boda, Kang Sheng, Yang Shangkun, Hu Qiaomu, Liao Chengzhi, Wu Xiuquan, Liu Xiao
The first talk took place on 17 September 1960 from 1300 to 1500....
In conclusion, Deng Xiaoping asked, as he said, the essential question: What does the CC CPSU and the Soviet government want to do with Soviet-Chinese friendship? ... Only after the clarification of this essential question made up of many facts, can one ascertain which assumptions are necessary for us to solve our disagreements...
The next accusation by Deng: We are also very puzzled by the following fact. Following his meeting with Comrade Khrushchev and several other leading figures in the USSR, Comrade Ho Chi Minh made a stop-over in Beijing on his way home and reported the following news: During the conversation with him and other Vietnamese, Comrade Khrushchev stated that enormous efforts were being spent in China to restore the gravesite of Genghiskhan and that this smelled of “yellow peril." The creation of Genghis-khan's empire involved three countries— Mongolia, our autonomous territory, and Soviet Buriatiia. Whereas it is usually stated in your country that it was primarily the Europeans who had to suffer from the attack by Genghis-khan, it was actually the Chinese who suffered the most from the attack.
Ponomarev: One should strike his grave, not celebrate him.
Pospelov: Why do they celebrate him as a progressive figure? Many nations had to suffer under his attack.
Peng Zhen: How could we interfere in the internal affairs of the Mongolians who want to restore the gravesite of their ancestors [?] You, for example, like Peter I. You intended to erect a monument in Port Arthur to three Russian generals—Kuropatkin, Alekseev, and Makarov, who had led an aggression against China.
Pospelov: This was never the case with Kuropatkin and Alekseev, only with Makarov; because Kuropatkin and Alekseev had betrayed the interests of Russia.
Peng Zhen: And now concerning the question of the Korean War.
Then the entire conversation with Khrushchev on June 22 was repeated and the attempt was made to whitewash Mao Zedong of any guilt. Mao Zedong reportedly stated at the beginning of the Korean War: “If the enemy trans
th gresses the 38" parallel, China—since it is not up to the Soviet Union to send troops for the protection of North Korea—is prepared to protect the common interests of the socialist countries, to send its own volunteers."
Following further discussion of the topic Deng declared: in explaining all of these facts we would like to ask the Soviet comrades to rethink whether all that they have done with respect to their enemies and with respect to their friends was appropriate. We have no doubt that overall you are taking a stand against imperialism.
Ponomarev: We, however, had the impression that all our deeds were also directed to support American imperi
(Second Session : 19 September 1960]
First of all com. [Frol] Kozlov explained that we have always assumed that truly fraternal relations corresponding to the spirit of Marxism-Leninism and proletarian internationalism must be established between our parties, states and people...
Secondly, Comrade Kozlov noted that as causes of the serious disagreements that supposedly have long existed between the two CCs, the Chinese comrades' letter mentions events that are related to Soviet-Polish relations as well as the events in Hungary in the fall of 1956. These questions were resolved long ago between the CC CPSU and the CCs of the Polish party and Hungarian Socialist Workers' Party. We have (reached) unanimity with these parties in our evaluations of the events of fall 1956.
We do not hide that at that time the Chinese comrades really did give us advice, but this advice was completely different from that now cited in the Chinese comrades' letter. Comrade Kozlov rebuts the Chinese comrades'
Deng: But why then did Comrade Khrushchev speak with such esteem about Eisenhower?
Suslov: One cannot mix up matters of principle with the diplomacy of the struggle.
Deng: Comrade Suslov, do not jump to conclusions too easily. You are not used to listening to others. Under such conditions it is difficult for us to finish our discussion. There is no state of equality. We would like to ask you, however, on whom you can count when difficulties will arise? On Eisenhower, on Nehru or the likes, or on a fraternal socialist country, on China?
Kozlov: There is no such question for us.
Deng: It would be perfect if such questions did not exist. But in reality such facts exist, and they cause concern.
Kozlov: Then you yourself want a decline in our relations. You yourself are pushing this line. We state that there is no such question, but you maintain that it exists nevertheless. We declare in the name of our country, in the name of our people that we will defend you in case of an attack with all means (available to us]; but you doubt this.
Deng: I ask you that your actions meet your recent statements.
Suslov: This statement is offensive to us.
Deng: I declare in the name of our party, in the name of the entire Chinese people, and fully aware of the responsibility, that regardless of all these] circumstances and the attacks on the Chinese people, the People's Republic of China and our party will take the side of the socialist countries in all difficulties.
Suslov: Did we not act this way when there was a difficult situation in the GDR in 1955 [1953?], did we not take full responsibility when we dealt a blow to the counterrevolution in Hungary?
Deng: But during the Chinese-Indian border conflict you did not act that way.
Suslov: But you were not threatened by a dangerous aggressor.
Deng: You unilaterally withdrew your experts from China, you transferred the ideological differences to the sphere of international-state relations, and I do not agree that India did not threaten China. You declared that you took a neutral position in the question of the Sino-Indian conflict. It is news to us that a fraternal socialist country can take a neutral position in the conflict with bourgeois India with regard to another socialist country.
In his further remarks, Deng spoke about the disagreements which had occurred in the relations between China and the USSR, among other things about the negotiations of the supreme command of the Far Eastern military district on joint air defense on 4 February 1955 and those on air defense between the military districts of the USSR and China on 27 September 1955. Peng Zhen thoroughly explained once again the question of the construction of a long-wave radio station. Deng stated in conclusion: As is well known, an extremely unequal treaty existed according
to which China did not have the right to permit representatives of third countries to enter two provinces of the PRC. These two provinces are our territories. Is it your
business whether we permit the entry of persons from third countries or not [?] These questions were discussed with Comrade Mikoian during his trip to the PRC, and it was resolved. We appreciate that you resolved these questions.
Suslov: And why do you now raise these longresolved questions once again? What is your point?
Deng: Unfortunately, the proposals with regard to the construction of a joint fleet, a long-wave radio station , and negotiations on a basis of equality (sic?) came from Comrade Khrushchev. Comrade Mao Zedong back then had asked Comrade Khrushchev: What should we do when you raise these issues, should we act according to your proposals or according to our thoughts. If we act as you wish, we would have to cede our entire coast to you, as was the case with Port Arthur (Lushunkou) and Dalnii [Dalian). Comrade Khrushchev responded: You cannot act like that. Where would you go? Comrade Mao Zedong then stated: We will go into the mountains as partisans.
Suslov: We think this is a joke.
Deng: This was not a joke. This was a very serious conversation. It must be stated that following this conversation, you stopped delivering to us technical documentation and equipment for the construction of a nuclear submarine fleet, while the CC CPSU communicated to the CC CCP on 20 June 1959 that the USSR would terminate the deliveries of technical documentation and necessary materials for the production of atomic weapons... With regard to the Chinese-Soviet border incidents, Deng stated: on this question, we will communicate our response through diplomatic channels, and therefore we will not take a position at this point....
Deng:...I take advantage of the opportunity to ask you to transmit our greetings to your Party and to com. Khrushchev. At the same time, please transmit the following wish: since last September com. Khrushchev has personally attacked our country and Party many times causing us alarm. As the leader of the Soviet party and the Soviet state, com. Khrushchev exercises powerful influence over world affairs. Therefore, we ask you with all our hearts and sincerity to deliver this message [to Khrushchev), asking him to pay attention to it. With great satisfaction, we ascertain that both sides consider this meeting useful and are of the opinion that this is a contribution towards gradually overcoming our differences...
(Source : SAPMO (former Socialist Unity Party (SED) Archive) JIV 2/202-280. Bd. 3; provided by Tim Trampedach (Freie Universitat-Berlin); translated by Christian Ostermann.)
From the Diary of
culmination point after which an improvement would
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I said that for our part, we would like to share this 12 October 1961
opinion, but that the situation was not of the Soviet Copy No. 1 Union's making (za Sovetskim Soiuzum). As for the
Albanians' most recent act, it affects the interests of all of Transcript of Conversation
the Warsaw pact countries, of the whole socialist camp. with General Secretary of the CC CCP
For that reason, efforts were needed which would lead to DENG XIAOPING
unity on the part of all of the countries of the socialist
commonwealth. 30 September 1961 In reply, Deng Xiaoping said that he was not in the
mood to immerse himself in the essence of the SovietIn connection with 27 September instructions from the Albanian differences. We have, he emphasized, a single Center, I made a request to meet with Mao Zedong. On desire—that the relations between your countries improve. September 30, the Secretariat of the CC CCP informed us In reply to my words that the CPSU had no other desire that Mao Zedong had instructed Deng Xiaoping to receive than to improve relations between the USSR and Albania, the Soviet ambassador. On the same day I met with Deng Deng Xiaoping again moved the conversation to SovietXiaoping.
Chinese relations. Having mentioned that relations had At the beginning of the conversation, Deng Xiaoping been very strained between the CCP and the CPSU and the by way of explaining why Mao Zedong did not receive us, PRC and the USSR, Deng Xiaoping stated the opinion that said that the "other comrades of the CC are very busy since the Moscow conference, these relations have been receiving kings” (at that time, the king and queen of Nepal developing fairly well (neplokho). Having noted that in and the Belgian queen were located in Beijing).
Korea, F.R. Kozlov invited him to lunch, and he [invited] I gave
information in an oral form on the Albanian F.R. Kozlov, Deng Xiaoping said: “We spoke about the issue (it is our opinion that they were already informed of importance of solidarity. I said to Kozlov that, of course, the matter). Having heard our message, Deng Xiaoping on this or that concrete issue we might not have identical said: “Bad news. Have you reached the culmination point opinions, but on the whole after the Moscow conference, of mutual relations between your two countries and two our relations have been developing fairly well. Kozlov parties?"
agreed with this.” On a series of important international I answered Deng Xiaoping that as he knows from our problems, Deng Xiaoping continued, we expressed and formerly delivered letter, the Soviet government has more continue to express support for your actions. Between the than once made efforts directed at normalizing Soviet- USSR and the PRC, very good cooperation has been Albanian relations, but the Albanian leaders are taking established in the international arena; for instance, at the steps in the opposite direction. Their last step is damaging Geneva conference on Laos. Of course, on certain the security of the member-countries of the Warsaw pact questions we have not entirely identical opinions. It is true and the basic security of the entire socialist camp.
that in Korea we did not speak about the Albanian issue Deng Xiaoping stated that everyone must not take with Kozlov, he added. extreme measures in order to leave room for a settlement. Further, Deng Xiaoping stated that there are 12
I again emphasized that after the Moscow conference, countries in the socialist camp, but the issue of relations the Soviet side undertook multiple steps in order to
between the USSR and Albania stands out most of all. Is eliminate misunderstanding in the relations between the there really no possibility of finding some way to resolve Soviet Union and Albania. For instance, a readiness by this issue? For our part, we hope and wish that such a path N.S. Khrushchev to meet with the Albanian leaders was be found.” Deng Xiaoping reminded (us) that Zhou Enlai expressed, although the latter, as the Chinese comrades and he (Deng Xiaoping) had earlier already stated their well know, stubbornly refused such a meeting. I added opinion on Albanian affairs. It is true, he noted, turning to that such a position by the Albanians is incomprehensible us, that you were not content, especially with my (Deng to us.
Xiaoping's) statement. We, Deng Xiaoping responded, are acquainted with
On that note the conversation about the Albanian issue the correspondence over this period between the Soviet ended.... Union and Albania. Between the CCP and the CPSU there were also great disputes. It is well that both you and we At the end of the conversation, I inquired as to did not take the matter to extremes. We have always stood whether the CC CCP had received the CC CPSU's and stand for this. We said and still say to the Albanian congratulatory telegram on the PRC's national holiday. comrades that relations between you should improve and Having received a negative reply, I informed Deng not worsen.
Xiaoping on this issue. Deng Xiaoping expressed thanks Then Deng Xiaoping thanked (me) for the message to the CC CPSU for the congratulations. Afterwards, he and expressed the hope that this bad news would be the noted that a solemn celebration dedicated to the PRC's