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tion. I am no military expert, but I have felt very strongly that we ought to take a completely new look at what the program is going to be in Europe if the Russians ever do attack, and find out whether our six divisions are going to be wiped off the map, and whether the ports of Europe are going to be destroyed before they could possibly get out, by atomic bombs. Certainly if the Russians can bomb this country, as we seem to fear, they certainly could destroy every port in Europe to which these armies are looking for supplies.

I just think the whole thing-and I may be completely wrong, but I do think we are entitled to a completely new look at it, and it seems to me it is very important that it be done before we commit ourselves to any, at least, long-term program now. That, of course, will take time, but I have been urging that-they are going to appoint new Joint Chiefs of Staff in August when the present terms expire. Why not appoint them informally now and let them go into this whole business and spend the time between now and August criticizing and going over the program that we are spending so much, $50 billion, on today, not only the European but our own program, and what we are going to do in case of war.

Secretary DULLES. I will communicate that to the President.
Senator TAFT. I just throw out those ideas.

Secretary DULLES. I will communicate those ideas to the President and Secretary of Defense.

Can I be excused, Mr. Chairman?

Senator SMITH. Í may say that we are meeting at two o'clock this afternoon with the American Legion. Senator Knowland, can you be here this afternoon?

Senator KNOWLAND. Yes.

[Whereupon, at 12:45 p.m., the committee adjourned.]

MINUTES

FRIDAY, APRIL 17, 1953

UNITED STATES SENATE,

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS,

Washington, D.C.

The committee met in executive session at 2 p.m. in the committee

room.

Present: Senators Smith (presiding), Ferguson, Knowland, Green, and Gillette.

The purpose of the meeting was a discussion desired with the committee by the Foreign Relations Commission of the American Legion. No stenographic report of the meeting was kept.

The committee adjourned at 3:30 p.m.

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MINUTES

TUESDAY, APRIL 21, 1953

UNITED STATES SENATE,

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS,

Washington, D.C.

The Committee met in executive session at 10:30 a.m. in the committee room.

Present: Chairman Wiley, Senators Hickenlooper, Ferguson, Green, Gillette, and Mansfield.

The committee discussed further agreements relating to the North Atlantic Treaty-Executives T and U of the 82d Congress, and Executive B of the 83d Congress.

For record of proceedings, see official transcript.

The committee recessed at 11:40 a.m., to meet again on the same subject Wednesday April 22 at 10:30 a.m.

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MINUTES

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 22, 1953

UNITED STATES SENATE,

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS,

Washington, D.C.

The committee met in executive session at 10:30 a.m.

Present: Chairman Wiley, Senators Hickenlooper, Taft, Ferguson, Knowland, George, Green, Gillette, and Mansfield.

The committee considered further the Protocols to the North Atlantic Treaty, Executives T and U, 82d Congress, and Executive B of the 83d Congress.

Senator Watkins was present and testified in support of an understanding he has proposed.

For record of proceedings, see official transcript.

The committee recessed at 12:20 p.m.

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MINUTES

THURSDAY, APRIL 23, 1953

UNITED STATES SENATE,

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS,

Washington, D.C.

The committee met in executive session at 11:30 a.m. to resume consideration of Executives T and U of the 82d Congress, and Executive B of the 83d Congress, agreements relating to the North Atlantic Treaty.

Present: Chairman Wiley, Senators Tobey, Taft, Ferguson, George, Green, and Mansfield.

The Chairman announced that he had the proxy of Senator Smith for the reporting of the agreements.

The agreements were ordered reported with the following understanding to Executive T, 82d Congress, 2d Session, "An Agreement Regarding Status of Forces of Parties of the North Atlantic Treaty:

"It is the understanding of the Senate, which understanding inheres in its advice and consent to the ratification of the Agreement, that nothing in the Agreement diminishes, abridges, or alters the right of the United States of America to safeguard its own security by excluding or removing persons whose presence in the United States is deemed prejudicial to its safety or security and that no person whose presence in the United States is deemed prejudicial to its safety or security shall be permitted to enter or remain in the United States."

The Chairman instructed that members of the committee not present be polled on the reporting of the agreements. [They were reported by a voice vote].

For record of proceedings, see official transcript.

The committee adjourned at 11:55 a.m.

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