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Senator TAFT. McLeod went up to New Hampshire to visit his family, I will tell you that. He planned to go some time ago and he did, but he is back, maybe-I do not assert that he is still there.

Senator SPARKMAN. The statement on the floor indicated he knew there was a 16-page memorandum. How did he know that?

Senator TAFT. It was mentioned in the committee. Dulles mentioned it. If he did not here, he mentioned it to me, 16 pages and identified it.

THE SUMMARY WAS ADEQUATE

Senator FERGUSON. As I understand it in this summary you found no suggestions of contradictions that made you feel you wanted to see what the witness himself had said?

Senator TAFT. No, I did not, because the witness was quoted practically verbatim all the way through.

Senator FERGUSON. That is what I mean, it seemed like a reasonable summarization?

Senator TAFT. Yes, and the stuff on the family here that visited him was set out at great length, both the husband and the wife and "strange associations"-and that is what Dulles referred to when he talks about Hollywood, he said this fellow was with the "Voice of America" and he is on his way out now. As far as I am concerned, I would throw him out in a minute.

Senator FERGUSON. You do not think he ought to speak for America.

Senator SPARKMAN. He did an excellent job.

Senator KNOWLAND. That carries great weight with me, the statement Mr. Hoover made to Senator Taft, because no matter how conscientious a department might be in summarizing the files, they might, even supposing there might be some information, not cover it; but the fact that Hoover himself said that the FBI had summarized all this and the information was all there, even by inadvertence nothing was left out.

Senator SPARK MAN. He said he had gone to unusual lengths.

Senator TAFT. The State Department had given access to the State Department files. Whatever the State Department had was incorporated. Also, two other government departments were referred to, but he did not name them.

Senator TOBEY. Mr. Chairman, I want to say you showed fine judgment in the two men you selected, Senator Taft and Senator Sparkman, to go over there, and I certainly appreciate what they have done.

The CHAIRMAN. And I am sure that you express the sentiment of the entire committee. We feel that they exercised judgment.

A STATEMENT ON THE FLOOR

Senator TAFT. On the floor we are going to have to make a statement. I am not going to make it nearly as complete as this. I do not think I should, but I did want to make it for the committee so that you will know how to answer if people ask for more information. Senator FERGUSON. I think it was a good thing to give it to the committee, otherwise there would be the feeling we could not answer it at all.

Senator TAFT. I do not think there is anything more you want to know about these people. I can remember a good deal about these different things. If there is anything you heard or anything else, I would be glad to answer.

Senator KNOWLAND. Might I ask, Mr. Chairman, what is going to become of this record that has been made here today?

The CHAIRMAN. Well, this is an executive hearing.

Senator FULBRIGHT. Off the record.

[Discussion off the record.]

Senator TAFT. I might say that there is one other man and that is Phlager, consular department, and he is very strongly of the opinion there is no evidence. He backed Dulles 100 percent.

Senator SPARKMAN. Off the record.

[Discussion off the record.]

Senator KNOWLAND. Mr. Chairman, do we have anything else? I left another committee that I was presiding over.

Senator TAFT. I do not think we need any action in this committee on this.

The CHAIRMAN. What was your question?

Senator KNOWLAND. I asked if there was any other business today because I left another meeting that I was presiding over, appropriations.

SHOULD THE COMMITTEE ACT?

Senator TAFT. Do you think this committee should act? We have not got it before us.

The CHAIRMAN. No, we have nothing before us.

Senator TAFT. We could simply state that in response to the request of some Senators, the committee met and received a report.

Senator FULBRIGHT. Might it not be helpful to say that we have heard your full statement and this committee unanimously accepts or approves this report, just so you can say that on the floor? Would that be helpful?

Senator TAFT. It is not necessary.

Senator KNOWLAND. I am inclined to believe that although we have already taken unanimous action, we have absentees and anything done now would be less than a full committee, and I am inclined to believe you might say that you have had a meeting and received a report to the committee.

Senator TAFT. Off the record.

[Discussion off the record.]

[The committee next took up and ordered reported the nomination of Walter S. Robertson to be Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs. It adjourned at 11:55 a.m.]

MINUTES

TUESDAY, MARCH 31, 1953

UNITED STATES SENATE,

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS,

Washington, D.C.

The committee met in executive session at 10:30 a.m.

Present: Chairman Wiley, Senators Tobey, Ferguson, Knowland, reen, Mansfield.

The committee considered the nomination of John M. Allison of Tebraska, whose nomination as Ambassador to Japan was referred to e committee on March 6.

Mr. Allison was present and was introduced by Senator Griswold of ebraska.

Following the testimony of Mr. Allison, the chairman informed the ommittee that a letter had been received from the Secretary of State dvising of security clearance in connection with a number of appointents already confirmed by the Senate.

A letter from Director for Mutual Security Stassen, relating to the utual security program was read by the chairman and it was agreed hold preliminary meetings in April prior to the legislation for connuing the program being submitted to the Congress.

The nomination of Mr. Allison was ordered reported by voice vote. The chairman had the proxies of Senators Smith, Hickenlooper, and

anger.

For the record of proceedings, see official transcript.

The committee adjourned at 11:40 a.m.

(The chairman instructed that Senators not present, or those whose oxies he did not have, be contacted to ascertain how they wished to › recorded on the Allison nomination. Senators Taft and Humphrey ked that they be on record in favor. Senator George is out of the city is Senator Gillette.)

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REPORT BY THE CHIEF OF STAFF, SUPREME

HEADQUARTERS ALLIED POWERS, EUROPE

[Editor's note: This executive hearing was published in 1953 with certain excisions. The chief of these, as marked in the committee's transcript copy, are reprinted below. Page references are to the printed hearing. In order to locate the excised passage exactly in the text, the last line or short phrase preceding the point of excision in the 1953 print is reprinted here.]

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 1, 1953

UNITED STATES SENATE,
COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS,

Washington, D.C.

The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:15 a.m., in the Foreign Relations Committee room, U.S. Capitol, Senator Alexander Wiley (chairman), presiding.

Present: Senators Wiley, Smith of New Jersey, Hickenlooper, Ferguson, Knowland, Fulbright, Sparkman, Humphrey, and Mansfield. Also present: Col. George P. Welch, Chief of Public Information Division, U.S. Army; Dr. Wilcox, Dr. Kalijarvi, Mr. Marcy, Mr. Holt, Mr. Cohn, and Mr. O'Day of the committee staff.

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General GRUENTHER. *** The result is that they now have between 65 and 70 satellite divisions.

Our intelligence people estimate that about half of those are up to Soviet standards. The other half can still be considered as substandard, but the Soviets are developing their strength in that field. What we really have then is 175 Soviet divisions, roughly 65 to 70 satellite divisions, about half of the latter being effective divisions.

The most effective ones are in Bulgaria. The Soviets after the war spent most of their attention in building up the Yugoslav forces and the Bulgarian forces, and then when Tito broke away, they gave greatest attention and priority to Bulgaria.

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General GRUENTHER.

*However, he had an opportunity there. Now every case is different, but if war should come, the more pressure that is put on these people, the quicker they are going to break, because in this whole area the Soviets are basically not popular. Take for example a country such as Czechoslovakia, which had a much higher standard of living than the Soviets can possibly bring them. There is no doubt that the Soviet regime is a heavy yoke on the

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