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Mr. ROONEY. What does this last one mean?

Mr. CONNORS. That last one is a report from home monitors on the

west coast.

Mr. ROONEY. Do you have any more evidence of jamming?

Mr. CONNORS. Here is one other report from them, also, quoting a newspaper, a Chinese language newspaper [handing].

Mr. ROONEY. Do you have any further reports or evidence of jamming?

Mr. CONNORS. I have a newspaper report here, a report from a Chinese language paper in Canton.

Mr. ROONEY. Do you have anything else?

Mr. CONNORS. I have some additional ones here. They may be duplications. These are from another file.

Mr. ROONEY. Leave these here with Mr. Humelsine and we will read them when we have an opportunity to do so.

PROPOSED PROMOTIONS BY WAY OF UPGRADING

Mr. ROONEY. Now, in this proposed budget are there any proposed promotions by way of upgrading?

Mr. MAY. Mr. Chairman, I believe the only provision that has been made is for the normal automatic promotions.

Mr. ROONEY. I am not talking of those. I am talking of upgrading effected by transferring a person from one job to another job of a higher grade or reclassifying his existing job to a higher grade.

Mr. MAY. Existing positions, I believe, sir, are all projected at the existing allocations for the following year, subject to the addition of the administrative increase. The answer would be "No," sir.

Mr. ROONEY. Do you propose any promotions by way of upgrading? That is a simple question. It has been asked here day in and day out of various agencies appearing on this bill. Is there any reason why you cannot answer it?

Mr. MAY. To my knowledge, there are none.

Mr. ROONEY. Who would be in a better position to know?

Mr. MAY. I can check that matter and establish it finally and completely. I hesitate to answer categorically right now, not knowing for sure.

Mr. ROONEY. I am now talking of the entire budget for the educational and information activities program. When will you have that information for us, and why the delay!

Mr. MAY. I think there are none, sir, but I hesitate to make a categorical answer at this time.

UNOBLIGATED AND CASH BALANCES

Mr. ROONEY. How much has been spent up to date in counterpart funds?

Mr. MAY. The obligations for January 31, 1951, amount to $6,787,801.

Mr. ROONEY. What are your present unobligated and cash balances of the whole appropriation?

Mr. MAY. I believe that figure has been calculated. I have the obligations and the available. I would have to make that calculation, sir. May I supply that a little later?

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Mr. ROONEY. What do you have now?

Mr. MAY. In the counterpart or the entire appropriation?

Mr. ROONEY. The entire appropriation. I first asked about counterpart and you told me that you had expended $6,787,801. I am now inquiring in regard to the unobligated and cash balances of the entire program.

Mr. MAY. We have available, sir, for total direct obligations for the fiscal year $111,767,850. That is the total appropriation. There are certain transfers and carry-overs, as indicated on page 480b, that affect that total.

Mr. ROONEY. I shall ask again-what is the present cash and unobligated balances of the entire appropriation? We have merely asked a couple of simple questions which have been readily answered by everyone else who has appeared before this committee since the hearings began. Is that correct, Mr. Wilber?

Mr. WILBER. That is correct.

Mr. ROONEY. We yet have no answer. How long will it take to get one?

Mr. MAY. Just a few minutes.

Mr. BARRETT. It is a matter of subtraction, sir.

Mr. MAY. May we give you that figure now, sir?

Mr. ROONEY. Yes.

Mr. MAY. The unobligated balances amount to $59,947,892.
Mr. ROONEY. What are the unexpended balances?

Mr. MAY. I will have to find that figure, sir. I am sorry, Mr. Chairman. We reported that figure to the investigators, but I do not seem to have it with me.

Mr. ROONEY. What is the March 1 figure of unobligated balances for the entire program?

Mr. MAY. We do not have that, sir. The reports from the more distant missions are not yet in and compiled.

Mr. ROONEY. Do I understand, then, that the last figure you have which shows the status of this operation is as of January 31? Mr. MAY. That is correct, sir.

EXPENSE OF LUNCHEONS

Mr. ROONEY. It is now March 12. Turn to page 658 of the justifications, and under "Services to exchange programs under public and private auspices," you will find a paragraph which states:

It is estimated that 679 leaders and specialists will visit the United States during the fiscal year 1952. Of this number, it is estimated that luncheons will be given for 375. The breakdown is as follows:

NUMBER OF FUNCTIONS

1. Seventy-five regular luncheons, 14 persons per luncheon at $125, $9,375. Do those figures mean what they say, or has there been a mistake made here?

Mr. MAY. Those figures are correct, sir.

Mr. ROONEY. This means that the average cost of a so-called regular luncheon is $8.93 per person; is that correct?

Mr. MAY. Yes.

Mr. ROONEY. $8.93 per person?

Mr. MAY. That is correct.

Mr. ROONEY. And the second item is

One hundred luncheons for three grantees each, 18 persons per luncheon at $155, $15,500.

Do those figures mean what they say?

Mr. MAY. Yes. Those are based on the experience to date in conducting this sort of an activity.

Mr. ROONEY. How long have you been gathering this experience? Mr. MAY. Well, sir, the most recent experience has been usedMr. ROONEY. I did not ask you that. I asked you how long you have been gathering your experience. Just follow the questions How long have you been gathering the experience?

Mr. MAY. The experience on which this estimate is based, sir, has been gathered during the last 2 fiscal years.

Mr. ROONEY. This second item, 100 luncheons for three grantees each, 18 persons per luncheon, at $155, means that you are requesting the amount of $8.61 per person per luncheon?

Mr. MAY. I believe that is substantially correct, sir.

DETAILS OF PERSONNEL PROMOTIONS

Mr. ROONEY. Will you furnish the committee a statement showing the details of every person in the past and present fiscal year who has been promoted by way of upgrading? Did you understand that? Mr. MAY. In the last category, sir, I would like to verify what you mean. You do not mean automatic promotions?

Mr. ROONEY. I am not speaking of automatic promotions at all. Mr. MAY. By reclassification of the job he was in, or assignment to a new responsibility?

Mr. ROONEY. That is right.

Mr. BARRETT. Assignment to a new responsibility?

Mr. ROONEY. Yes.

Mr. BARRETT. That is all I wanted to know.

SURVEY BY INTERNATIONAL PUBLIC OPINION RESEARCH, INC.

Mr. ROONEY. You had a survey made by International Public Opinion Research, Inc., did you not?

Mr. HULTEN. Yes.

Mr. ROONEY. That survey was conducted at two points in France; one in the city and one in the suburban population; correct?

Mr. HULTEN. Yes.

Mr. ROONEY. Does that survey disclose, following a poll, that 30 percent of those in the city of Paris and 31 percent in the suburban town felt that the Atlantic Pact might provoke war?

Mr. HULTEN. I am sorry, but I do not have a copy of the survey. My memory is that is quite accurate, sir.

Mr. ROONEY. With regard to the attitude of people in France toward the Marshall plan, the survey reports that 23 percent in the city of Paris feel that the Marshall plan is a bad thing for France; is that correct?

Mr. HULTEN. Yes.

Mr. ROONEY. I suppose it is needless to comment at this point that it appears we have not been very successful in our campaign in France.

Mr. BARRETT. May I speak to that?

Mr. ROONEY. Surely.

Mr. BARRETT. I do not think those percentages indicate it, sir. Public opinion polls normally show quite a substantial number of people who take an opposing view from the predominant one. For example, there are today something like 40 percent of the public in this country who do not know who Dean Acheson is. No one can say that Dean Acheson has not been publicized.

Mr. ROONEY. How much did you pay for the analysis made by the International Public Opinion Research, Inc.?

Mr. HULTEN. I believe that Mr. Stefan read that figure into the record. I do not recall.

Mr. ROONEY. Will you put it into the record again at this point? (The cost of the French survey referred to was reported to the committee to be approximately $7,000.)

RADIO BROADCASTING

WITNESSES

FOY KOHLER, CHIEF, DIVISION OF INTERNATIONAL BROADCASTING

GEORGE Q. HERRICK, CHIEF, FACILITIES BRANCH, INTERNATIONAL BROADCASTING DIVISION

Mr. ROONEY. We shall now take up the item for radio broadcasting, beginning at page 481 of the justifications.

At this point we shall insert in the record pages 481, 482, and 483 of the justifications, which show that there is a requested increase in the amount of $8,990,488 and 1,038 man-years for the Division of International Broadcasting.

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